David Braden Common goal is the first critical requirement. A successful marriage is a good example. As business partnership is also a powerful incentive to self-organizing to achieve the goal. I would like to answer M Ichael's question:
"what is stupid or ugly that you would like to make smart and elegant"
If neighbors formed teams to improve their conditions they could develop community sufficiency technologies:
http://www.livingsystemsinst.org/community-sufficiency...
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M Ichael Josefowicz Dmitry Sokolov My experience is the only way to effectively transmit those understandings is by creating the conditions ofr self organizing teams to engage with a problem.
An approach that has worked for me is to begin by breaking the group into groups. Give each team a bunch of straws and a roll of tape. Challenge each group to make the highest self standing structure. After they have gone through the challenge ask them to think about how they felt as they were doing the challenge. If possible get them to write out what they felt. That will give you a place to start.
After the reflective session you can ask them ""If you had all the time and money in the world, what do you want to be true that is not true today? Another version I have used with designers is what is stupid or ugly that you would like to make smart and elegant."
Ask the same groups that worked in the challenge to collaborate to answer the question. With luck they will chose a common goal. Then they brainstorm about what they can do to take some steps to meet their goal given the constraints of time and money.
It's going to force you to see how the students interact. The hard part is learning to be a mentor to get them on the right path.
Michael Josefowicz
Dmitry, always feel free to copy anything I say into any context. 
I just had a thought to share.I don't exactly know your value proposition in detail. If it has anything to do with facilitating conversations between all the players, you have the unique advantage of not having a legacy organization. Since you don't you can be free to do stuff for every one's best interest, instead of having to worry about a paritcular organizations interests.
If experience is any guide, turf wars between organization sometimes sabotage the overall aim.
Peter Jones
Do people prefer a) tranquility or b) publicity? And a second question, do they prefer tasks or people?
Those preferring tranquil tasks will most usually prefer working in product development; tranquil people ... team building and development; public people ... marketing and sales; public tasks ... management and legal.
And there are slow changes taking place ...
Management streams work by defining the people needed for tasks; people streams encourage task creation by their talented people.
Leadership today is definitely leaning towards the latter, but not fast enough for either my purposes, or more worryingly, to be ready in time for my children starting work.
The technique is very over simplified, but it works, I've used it often and people seem to agree with the conclusions it offers ...
Peter Jones
Also, a frequent problem people have is goal setting ...
I like to use Richard St John here, because the eight success values are aspirational.
The key value is passion. What do people love? What do they really care about? What is it that makes them keep out of bed in the morning?
Do they understand service? Are they willing to listen more than talk? Do they understand value? Do they distinguish between sustainability and profit margins?
And so on for all the right values.
Teal 4 Startups started with a large bank of questions which are great to get founders thinking, and the same is need for both job seekers and employers ...
Step 2 is then what to do with those questions, T4S don't write know that yet ...
Yes, please copy andpaste for mulling, and you are welcome to add attribution ...
In fact, Facebook is very good at attribution, something for another discussion ...
5:32pmPeter Jones
... leap out ... eight values ... quite know ...
M Ichael Josefowicz An example from my experience of 10 years of a self organizing team that crystallized in nemetics.
Encourage.
It began on twitter trading jokes with made up words to meet the challenge of creating a language to enable us to have fruitful discussions on twitter about complex creative systems. It continued as we traded tweets from anyone's work that we authentically liked. Over years the jargon connected with nemetics emerged.
Prepare
Each of the team on their own read, traded links, kept going until we had a common language that was refined to the point where it could articulate the mechanisms of complexity using our made up jargon. At the same time we learned who each of us are, how we think, where we are going in their journey of life, what engaged their particular passions.
Inform
As we learned about each of our individual passions we knew which links were germane to their passions. All the while tweeting articles that indicated each one of our interests.
Connect
Was the foundation for the other elements to survive and thrive. We connected exclusively using tansmedia. Mostly twitter and G+, now FB is an important part of the mix. Depending on individual's proclivity we connected on Medium, all the picture technology, the wiki.
One result was a paper accepted for publication in a peer reviewed publication of IGI. (Still waiting publication so there is an embargo which should life in the next couple of weeks) Another results is the work I am doing to create easy to understand series of modules to teach complexity theory to designers, marketing people and entrepreneurs.
These are all works in progress. Having built on many iterations of the EPIC cycle, we are clarifying our various intents. It's more accurate to say we jumped from E P I C without going through a cycle. Sometimes E sometimes P sometimes I sometimes C sometimes all of them together.
This is where I am in my work. By the way, I need to get some feedback to know if the language is accessible.
http://niask.pbworks.com/w/page/110031136/Systemic%20Design
Thanks in advance.
Peter Jones Dmitry Sokolov Esteban Trev Barry Kort, and anyone in a triad with them
NIASK Nemetic Institute of Art & Science Kollkata [licensed for non-commercial…
niask.pbworks.com
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Dasaratha Rama Thanks for sharing this example, M Ichael EPIC looks a little different in peer groups as opposed to mentoring networks like PhD Project. So useful example.
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M Ichael Josefowicz Dasaratha Rama I guess I am more engaged with leadership rather than metnorship. Leadership can come from anyone at different times.
My interest/passion is to understand self organizing teams on FB threads + other social media. My strong hunch is that if we can figure that out, it might help for the problem of community college kids. Complexity is not really all that complex. But once you can see it, it is a powerful mental model that makes the job of change makers much easier.
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M Ichael Josefowicz One key of self organizing teams is for everyone to do what they can do with excellence and is fun to do.
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Following is the first draft of a new home page for my web site. I think some of you will see your contributions in it. Your comments are welcome. How can I make it better?
http://www.livingsystemsinst.org/
"We will build the world we wish for our children and grandchildren when individual humans learn to produce abundance while healing nature.
The world we experience is built up from all the interactions of all the living things around us and each of us has the power to influence that pattern of interactions. The most exciting quest of our time is to learn to influence that pattern to produce an abundance of those things humans need to thrive in cooperation with nature's processes.
You will need these skills on your quest:
- - scientist/mystic/entrepreneur - -
- - activist/wizard/jedi knight - -
- - generalist/translator/practitioner - -
Here is how it works:
If we choose based on our individual needs . . . which nothing is possible unless those needs are met . . . we choose to know as much as we can (scientist), in wonder at the system's awesome complexity (mystic), and effectively use that understanding to accomplish our goals (entrepreneur) - -
If we choose based on the needs of the groups to which we belong . . . which is how it is possible for individuals to meet their needs . . . we choose to place our groups in the best light (activist), and help them make use of the best technologies (wizard), and defend them against threats (jedi knight) - -
If we choose based on the needs of our habitat . . . and the potential of individuals and that of their groups is constrained by the health of the “system” as it operates within their locality . . . we choose as broad a knowledge as possible (generalist), in order to coordinate among the specialists (translator), and build health into our habitat (practitioner).
Should you accept this challenge . . . we have prepared this web site to help you obtain the skills you will need.
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David Braden "a step-by-step set of actions I could realise locally" I would start with the 3 simple rules Dmitry.
1) everyone gets to make their own decision,
2) what ever we do is open to all residents, and
3) measure progress by the diversity of participation.
It is a complex adaptive system and there are many ways to begin increasing the inclusiveness of the pattern in your locality. Start a deep mulch garden at your home:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/.../deep-mulch-gardening...
or start a Bee Safe Neighborhood project perhaps:
http://www.livingsystemsinst.org/.../bee-safe...
M Ichael Josefowicz David Braden I want to add another step, especially for leaders. The nurturing of a common Intent. My experience is that once you have at minimum three people with common Intent, the steps will come from serrendipity. I would call your steps more rules of engagements or the ethics of the company. Every decision has to be made within those ethics. Sometimes , as infrequently as possible, some decision will rub up against the ethics. It will happen especially if there is some unexpected challenge that has to be overcome.
It might come up with some kind of very attractive opportunity. Especially market pressures or the possibility of funding. If the ethics are strong and shared by everyone, it's usually possible to make decisions that do not violate the ethics.
If the ethics are not shared by everyone, an ethical decision that is against self interest can create divisions within the organization. It's not all that different from a person to live an ethical life. It's a constant battle between what I should do versus what I can do.
My working definition of ethics is not doing what you can do.
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M Ichael Josefowicz Dmitry Sokolov I am part of a self organizing team working today. I'll be glad to share my experience. I'm not sure this thread is the best place to do it. I'll leave that to David Braden .
Short story. We met over social media starting in 2010. Today we have a high performance team with people in New York, Barcelona, Kolkata, Eugene.Oregon, Quebec. We have never met face to face.
Members of our team have published a prototype of a 4 page newspaper distributed in 8 cities. One member has published a book. We have the framework for an Institute and we have an article that has been accepted in a peer review journal.
The first, second and third necessity is the creation of a team. With that things will happen. Without that not so much.
Please feel free to ask whatever comes to mind in whatever context you think is most appropriate.
You still insist the a market can heal nature and produce abundance :-). A better example might be Will Allen's Growing Power in Milwaukee,
http://www.growingpower.org/about/history/
Or the urban farming guys in Kansas City:
http://theurbanfarmingguys.com/
Both end up limiting the number of people and species that can participate in their projects because of the perceived need to convert what the produce to money.
Rule #2: Whatever we do is open to all residents of our locality.
This has been a wonderful thread and all of you have helped greatly with my ability to describe the pattern that I find in my practice. I am going to start a new thread to focus on developing this refined description.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/125513674232534/permalink/868806799903214/
David Braden
January 11 at 7:28am
Poverty and impoverished environments are the failure of the system to provide a home for the individuals impoverished. This failure results from humans organizing all their affairs around the market.
Each of us has the power to reach out to the the impoverished within our locality and, in exchange for providing a home, they will contribute their gift to enhance the flows through the system. Exercising this power does not require any one to give up any thing.
Rather, when we insist on buying through the market that which we could produce for ourselves in cooperation with the living things around us, we impoverish the habitat in which we live. We then deny our children and grandchildren the enriched world we could have produced.
It is this practice of honoring the gift of the least among us that will allow the system to heal nature and produce abundance.
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