Collaboration Conversation: Daniel Harris, Arthur Brock and Tammy Lea Meyer
individuals have the freedom to just
10:53 move wherever they want connect with
10:55 whoever they want if everything is
11:00 protocol if every language is an open
11:02 approach if every function is an open
11:04 protocol then you're not tied in to any
11:06 particular system and be expending
11:12 someone you don't use Facebook you can
11:14 just friend them like you send them an
11:15 email you know or catching a lift
11:20 you don't need a lift share company to
11:25 do that it just you just connect into
11:28 the right share clouds you
11:32 know and and so every strata even
11:36 decision making even governments even
11:38 you know so really what I'd like to see
11:41 is every individual being autonomous to
11:44 make like you said or make choices about
11:47 who they want to be in what they want to
11:49 contribute and to the naysayers that
11:53 say we can't give people that kind of
11:57 level of choice right now and right
11:59 right now we probably we could but it
12:02 probably things would mess up but but I
12:05 think things will evolve so technology
12:07 will evolve function functionality will
12:10 evolve freedom will evolve and by the
12:12 time with their hope it's very soon
12:14 people will evolve so people will not
12:17 stay the same I think that's one thing I
12:18 really want to push into these kind of
12:22 conversations is people who will evolve
12:24 too and people will take on more
12:25 responsibility and actually that's what
12:28 I want to see so yes people might say so
12:32 I'm quoting people some people might say
12:35 ah like it's not really human nature and
12:44 I just think well you know that's what
12:47 schools are for that that's what
12:48 teaching is for you know we changed how
12:51 people behave and it and and in a sense
12:55 it is a very it's pushing it out in
12:59 order to create safety that's what this
13:01 is about sorted in order to have a safe
13:04 world we need to push that and therefore
13:07 we can't just let things happen we
13:11 actually have the voice
13:12 open protocols or whatever you know the
13:15 interoperability or you know autonomy
13:18 onto people you are responsible for your
13:21 lives so that's the kind of yeah that's
13:23 kind of world thank you
13:36 yeah but for me connected to that
13:39 precipice that I think we're on that
13:41 edge of has to do with these new
13:46 patterns of opening things up into
13:51 decentralized ways that most people's
13:53 exposure to that so far as the
13:55 blockchain
13:56 but the blockchain for me is still far
13:59 too centralized in architecture so far
14:03 far too centralized like we think of it
14:05 as a big monolithic global ledger now
14:07 there's lots of copies of it which makes
14:10 it complicated to manage but for me
14:13 the the things that we're building with
14:16 Ceptr and the HoloChain are to be
14:19 able to push that out to the edges and
14:21 create many many new patterns of
14:25 organizing I think of it like the
14:28 Cambrian explosion of life-forms with
14:31 the advent of DNA all sudden
14:34 multicellular life could organize in all
14:36 these different ways and nature tried
14:38 lots of different things now a lot of
14:40 those things didn't work out but the
14:43 ones that did gave us the whole and of
14:45 richness of species we have today and I
14:48 feel like we're about to me at that kind
14:52 of transition point for social organisms
14:54 that as we when we put this kind of tool
14:57 out there it becomes the social DNA it
15:00 becomes the means by which we can
15:04 create new social patterns and it's
15:05 going to be an explosion of them and I
15:08 don't know that we have to foist it on
15:10 them or program kids in school or
15:13 anything like that I think what's going
15:14 to happen is some of these are going to
15:17 out-compete the command/ctrl corporate
15:21 hierarchies that are really not
15:22 efficient either and out-compete you
15:25 know the
15:26 commercial market economies we've got
15:28 this religion about about that the
15:31 market makes good decisions the market
15:34 is really efficient because that were
15:35 true we've used the market in our homes
15:37 we would charge our kids for the dinners
15:39 and we gift economies are so many orders
15:42 of magnitude more efficient than market
15:44 economies commercial economies and yet
15:47 we just sort of blinders you know ignore
15:49 all this kind of stuff and I think as we
15:51 activate these new patterns
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